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    "....So how exactly will U.S. Cellular deploy 5G?...."
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    The info on recent capital expenditures makes it sound like something is actually going to happen. But, I'll believe it when I see it.

    USCell really is a rural provider. It would be nice to see improvements in the rural fixed wireless world. Many homes don't have wired internet. Some homes don't have any other wireless service other than USCell. So, they do have a monopoly is some places. And they are a much better option than other smaller cellular providers or satellite internet.

    There are some larger markets in the Mid-West. If they went after the small to mid-sized cities, they could really get ahead of the big four with a 5G build-out. If USCell had some forward-thinking ideas, they could get pretty far. But like I said before- I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Does USCC even own any mmW spectrum? Their current spectrum holdings aren’t enough to hold a decent 2G+3G+4G+5G network.


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    From TFA, the plan is for 600mhz deployment for fixed wireless, replacing their current deployment of fixed wireless services via their existing LTE network. On the one hand, running 5G on that 600mhz band will only gain ~15% speed/capacity over running more LTE in that band... but on the other hand, 15% is 15%, and moving fixed wireless traffic onto that would free up the existing LTE capacity. They mention in the article them bidding on 24ghz (and google shows a recent USCC announcement that they purchased 24 and 28ghz capacity covering 98% of their POPs, and 300mhz covering 97%).

    If USCC wanted to be agressive about it... 600mhz "out in the sticks", people's choice is usually satellite internet or cellular data of some type (or maybe dialup...), although there are some providers here in Iowa that have DSL in random locations out in the sticks. Given rural population density and the competition, they could easily run fixed wireless that'd outrun satellite and DSL at least. Of course with fixed wireless, they could conceivably run mmwave out past where it'd work well for a mobile device, and just have the owner place the in-home unit up wherever it gets best mmwave reception, leaving the 600mhz free for those users who really are out of range of mmwave.

    In the cities (there are plenty of them...), if they wanted, they could really be competitive with their 300mhz of mmwave. Plenty of areas here in the midwest, the cable and dsl companies really act like a duopoly, especially in terms of pricing, and (if they wished) VZW, USCC, etc. could really clean their clocks if they rolled that mmwave out at a good price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeuten View Post
    Does USCC even own any mmW spectrum? Their current spectrum holdings aren’t enough to hold a decent 2G+3G+4G+5G network.
    Are they still running EVDO? They should just nuke that tomorrow. No reason to have it hanging around. CDMA/1x is much more necessary, but they have acquired more greenfield spectrum for LTE like B71.

    USCC's biggest threat is T-Sprint. If T-Sprint decides to overbuild USCC, then USCC would likely collapse just from the lost roaming revenue alone, not to mention T-Sprint taking customers. If they decide not to overbuild them in the areas that aren't already overbuilt, then USCC could survive.

    They really should get AT&T and Verizon to get on board with LTE/VoLTE roaming as well, as each has some giant, ugly, holes that USCC could plug tomorrow if they could hash out a deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by hwertz View Post
    Of course with fixed wireless, they could conceivably run mmwave out past where it'd work well for a mobile device, and just have the owner place the in-home unit up wherever it gets best mmwave reception, leaving the 600mhz free for those users who really are out of range of mmwave.
    I wonder how far they could get 24ghz to fly if it's LOS with permanently mounted antennas? Basically a mini microwave dish.

    In the cities (there are plenty of them...), if they wanted, they could really be competitive with their 300mhz of mmwave. Plenty of areas here in the midwest, the cable and dsl companies really act like a duopoly, especially in terms of pricing, and (if they wished) VZW, USCC, etc. could really clean their clocks if they rolled that mmwave out at a good price.
    Interesting thought. If they got into competing with cable, especially in smaller cities without fiber, they could likely make quite a bit of money and that would diversify them away from just mobile.

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    Also, n71 would be quite useful for mobile as new devices come out next year with sub-6 5G, both on USCC, and carriers that have a roaming agreement with USCC.

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    Just a reminder, USCC is NOT strictly a midwest or eastern carrier, they serve Northern California (including my home of Mendocino County), much of Oregon and much of Washington, aka their Northwest Market (which included Hawaii and Southeastern Idaho until those markets were sold off around 2000). 5G here with them? Maybe, someday, it took them long enough to just get LTE here, and at one time, they were running CDMA, TDMA and AMPS all at the same time in our area (RSA 344), they tend to get stuff here, but in slow motion. That said, they were the first carrier here with digital (TDMA), with testing started in 1999, and it going official in 2000.

    In Mendocino County, we have Verizon, USCC, AT&T and T-Mobile, no Sprwon't, they use...yep, USCC for service.

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