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    T-Mobile deploys mmW 5G NR in 6 urban cores

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    Here are the mmWave coverage maps for those 6 urban areas:
    https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/ou...-coverage-maps

    This is why carriers need mid-band for 5G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volaris View Post
    Here are the mmWave coverage maps for those 6 urban areas:...
    Methinks those maps optimistic.
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    I'm glad Tmo always takes care of Vegas (home of the Tmo Arena). But, 5G capable phones are just too expensive right now and coverage probably won't be great at the beginning. I'll wait a year. I don't want to buy a lousy Samsung product either.

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    Post T-Mobile’s 5G Network Launches This Friday

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    ... Or at least the first carrier-branded handset that can access it. That handset is Samsung's S10 5G which, without a payment plan, will set you back the princely sum of $1,299 USD. And that's not the only gotcha; from The Verge:

    T-Mobile confirmed to The Verge that the S10 5G will only support mmWave spectrum. It won’t be forward-compatible with the carrier’s planned low- and mid-band frequencies, which is the next phase of its 5G service that will widen its reach to more people.

    The S10 5G is a phone for the state of 5G now, not the future. This isn’t a reason not to buy the phone, but it’s something you should know before plopping down a bunch of cash.
    Here are the six markets where T-Mo's millimeter wave network is already live:

    Atlanta
    Cleveland
    Dallas
    Las Vegas
    Los Angeles
    New York

    From the coverage maps of these cities you can see that 5G availability is extremely limited and, according to The Verge, will only reliably work outdoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acurrie View Post
    Here are the six markets where T-Mo's millimeter wave network is already live:

    Atlanta
    Cleveland
    Dallas
    Las Vegas
    Los Angeles
    New York

    From the coverage maps of these cities you can see that 5G availability is extremely limited and, according to The Verge, will only reliably work outdoors.

    Sources: T-Mobile (1) (2) via The Verge
    At least these maps are believable, but yes, it looks like only on the streets outside, which is expected in that freq range. Let's hope TMo's approach of Low-Mid-High comes to fruition so we can have a chance at widespread coverage in the US.

    Without the mid-band (~2.5GHz), I am not optimistic that we can rely on the narrow B71 to do much on its own since it's so hard to get anything deployed here in SoCal Suburbia. So, I can't see mmWave getting here any time soon (within 5 years).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cellphone-guy View Post
    I'm glad Tmo always takes care of Vegas (home of the Tmo Arena). But, 5G capable phones are just too expensive right now and coverage probably won't be great at the beginning. I'll wait a year. I don't want to buy a lousy Samsung product either.
    What almost everyone is missing about 5G is that most of the benefits of mmWave, and even some of the benefits of Sprint's 5G don't require a 5G-capable phone. mmWave small cells are drastically densifying the 4G LTE network and pushing fiber farther out, and almost anywhere short of an arena or Times Square that has sites spaced for mmWave will have tons of 4G LTE bandwidth available from those same sites due to density. Further, Sprint's B41 5G is using massive MIMO upgrades to sites that will also speed 4G LTE on B41 way up as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volaris View Post
    Here are the mmWave coverage maps for those 6 urban areas:
    https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/ou...-coverage-maps

    This is why carriers need mid-band for 5G.
    If carriers just use low and mid band, true unlimited data plans will never exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxFan76 View Post
    What almost everyone is missing about 5G is that most of the benefits of mmWave, and even some of the benefits of Sprint's 5G don't require a 5G-capable phone. mmWave small cells are drastically densifying the 4G LTE network and pushing fiber farther out, and almost anywhere short of an arena or Times Square that has sites spaced for mmWave will have tons of 4G LTE bandwidth available from those same sites due to density. Further, Sprint's B41 5G is using massive MIMO upgrades to sites that will also speed 4G LTE on B41 way up as well.
    But all those people using mmwave spectrum are also freeing up LTE spectrum for those that don't have 5G phones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    But all those people using mmwave spectrum are also freeing up LTE spectrum for those that don't have 5G phones
    Sure, at a large venue, or extremely dense area, like Times Square. Everywhere else, there really isn't a practical difference between 100mbps and 150mbps or even more on speed tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hagar View Post
    But all those people using mmwave spectrum are also freeing up LTE spectrum for those that don't have 5G phones
    Very good point! Everyone can enjoy their $1300 5G phone while I enjoy my $180 4G phone on a less congested network

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    T-Mobile : “MMWave is total garbage”

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    Quote Originally Posted by CircuitSwitched View Post
    T-Mobile : “MMWave is total garbage”.........
    Only because this is presented as a direct quote, I'll ask you for the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    Only because this is presented as a direct quote, I'll ask you for the source.
    Is this close enough?

    https://twitter.com/nevilleray/statu...976255488?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeuten View Post
    Is this close enough?.....
    In other words, that's not what was said.

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