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    Motorola G3 obsolete?

    My carrier uses the Tmobile network. They just sent me an email saying that the Moto G3 will soon have problems because the phone doesn't support VoLTE and that I (surprise, surprise) have to buy a new phone.

    Is this true? And if so, how long before it becomes an issue?

    Thanks!

    Donald

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    I have not seen a solid date for 3G shutdown by T-Mobile. 2G is scheduled for end of 2020, and it may be 3G will be also. That would likely also include HSPA, which is called"4G". The carriers are all wanting to go to VoLTE ASAP.

    If you like Motos consider the G5, G6, G7. Good value for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    I have not seen a solid date for 3G shutdown by T-Mobile. 2G is scheduled for end of 2020, and it may be 3G will be also. That would likely also include HSPA, which is called"4G". The carriers are all wanting to go to VoLTE ASAP.

    If you like Motos consider the G5, G6, G7. Good value for the money.
    The T-Mo 3G shutdown has been mentioned recently. IIRC 2022

    The Moto G6 does not have T-Mo 600 MHz band 71 - G5 probably doesn't either. That is really good to have on T-Mo. It makes a big difference for coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdevnul View Post
    The T-Mo 3G shutdown has been mentioned recently. IIRC 2022

    The Moto G6 does not have T-Mo 600 MHz band 71 - G5 probably doesn't either. That is really good to have on T-Mo. It makes a big difference for coverage.
    So why is the OP's carrier giving a warning so early?

    Generic Moto G6/G7s don't list B71, but the ones sold by TMO do list it. Some generic lower end Samsung Galaxy models have B71, and all TMO versions do. You just need to check it with a BYOD.

    The Moto G5 is not currently sold, so not a consideration anyway. I have one and like it a lot.

    I am curious if there is B71 in my area. Don't know anybody with TMO service, so may check at the store in town. Is the 600 MHz B12 not usable? Not sure if they have that here either. I only got B4 when on that service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    So why is the OP's carrier giving a warning so early?
    Don't know. The Verizon MVNOs started nagging about needing a new phone well before the original Vz CDMA shutdown of 12/31/19 (now 12/31/20).

    Generic Moto G6/G7s don't list B71, but the ones sold by TMO do list it. Some generic lower end Samsung Galaxy models have B71, and all TMO versions do. You just need to check it with a BYOD.
    Good point about the T-Mo models having band 71 that the generics don't.

    The Moto G5 is not currently sold, so not a consideration anyway. I have one and like it a lot.
    I like my generic G6, but I'm not using it on T-Mo.

    I am curious if there is B71 in my area. Don't know anybody with TMO service, so may check at the store in town. Is the 600 MHz B12 not usable? Not sure if they have that here either. I only got B4 when on that service.
    I tried T-Mo with phones that have band 12. It was very hit and miss - mostly miss. They turned on band 71 here recently after finally getting the TV stations moved. I now have solid signal inside my home where there was none before and solid signal around town where it was hit and miss before.

    I'm not in a major metro area. Home is out just past the suburbs of a small central Virginia town.

    I got one of T-Mo's free hotspot Test Drives to test it. The hotspot device has band 71. I think the promo is still going. Don't cost nuthin - don't even have to send the device back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    So why is the OP's carrier giving a warning so early?
    Most likely to minimize the amount of customers having to scramble for a new phone at the last minute, although some will wait too long. I remember that happening as a CS rep when At&t shut down Analog and 2G networks. I can't tell you how many calls we received from customers who swore that they weren't advised prior to the actual shutdown when notices were sent at least 6-8 months to all affected customers.
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    wait the g3 has 4g bars right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaolinwookie View Post
    wait the g3 has 4g bars right?
    A phone having 4G LTE does not mean it is VoLTE capable. Has been confusing to many users on all the carriers. In Moto G phones you need a 5 or later. Prior to VoLTE, voice was 2G/3G. All the carriers want use only VoLTE. I would imagine 5G will be much the same.
    Last edited by loboheeler; 05-10-2020 at 08:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    A phone having 4G LTE does not mean it is VoLTE capable. Has been confusing to many users on all the carriers. In Moto G phones you need a 5 or later. Prior to VoLTE, voice was 2G/3G. All the carriers want use only VoLTE. I would imagine 5G will be much the same.
    do you mean to tell me once a company, like att, phases out 3g that my phone wont make calls or text unless its volte equipped

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaolinwookie View Post
    do you mean to tell me once a company, like att, phases out 3g that my phone wont make calls or text unless its volte equipped
    That is correct for AT&T. They have already shut down 2G GSM.

    Other carriers have different schedules, but all are dead ends for 2G and 3G in months to short years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdevnul View Post
    That is correct for AT&T. They have already shut down 2G GSM.
    More precisely, At&t/Cingular killed 2G on their network almost almost 15 years ago.

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    Motorola G3 obsolete?

    Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
    More precisely, At&t/Cingular killed 2G on their network almost almost 15 years ago.
    Atnt shutdown 2g gsm in 2016 and into 2017.


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    Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
    More precisely, At&t/Cingular killed 2G on their network almost almost 15 years ago.
    What you are referring to is 2G TDMA (first digital network), which predates 2G GSM. AT&T shut down 2G TDMA in 2007, and 2G GSM end of 2016. I missed those shutdowns, having upgraded the phones beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaolinwookie View Post
    do you mean to tell me once a company, like att, phases out 3g that my phone wont make calls or text unless its volte equipped
    It's not just the final network shutdown date, but the carriers also stop activations well before. Current older phones will run until the end, but can't be reactivated if service is dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    What you are referring to is 2G TDMA (first digital network), which predates 2G GSM. AT&T shut down 2G TDMA in 2007, and 2G GSM end of 2016. I missed those shutdowns, having upgraded the phones beforehand.
    2007 TDMA was killed off, 2008 Analog, GSM in 2016.

    I actually kept a 3w analog phone until the end for the rural coverage. There are *still* spots I go to this day that have no Digital coverage but worked just fine on Analog.
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