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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    Neither did AT&T (BellSouth). Until AT&T bought 700 MHz they covered 2/3 of Mississippi with only mid-band licenses and their coverage was competitive with CSpire (Cellular South) and Verizon.

    (The B-side cellular licenses in Mississippi went to BellSouth in the central area around Jackson and to Cellular South (Franklin Telephone) in the northern and southern parts of the state.)
    When did AT&T buy their 700 MHz in Mississippi since that is their Nationwide backbone spectrum? Was that when AT&T acquired BellSouth in 2006? Did AT&T use 800 MHz in Mississippi to be their rural spectrum back then?

    Are you saying that T-Mobile is more of a spectrum squatters than the other three networks across the nation? T-Mobile under John Ledger has been the fastest network in the nation to deploy their spectrum IMHO. How much of Cspire 600 MHz has been deployed in Mississippi? Cspire has owned Band 12 in Harderman County, TN for over a decade and never deployed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shilohcane View Post
    When did AT&T buy their 700 MHz in Mississippi since that is their backbone spectrum? Are you saying that T-Mobile is more of a spectrum squatters than the other three networks across the nation? .....
    It was 3/18/2008. The TV stations repacked about 2010. Between about 2000 and 2010 BellSouth/AT&T provided pretty good coverage in 2/3 of Mississippi using just mid-band, just as Viaero provided pretty good coverage in Nebraska using mid-band. I'm saying that T-Mobile under-deployed their available licenses in rural areas, when compared with some other mid-band-only carriers. Their attitude seemed to be one of "urban service first and foremost". While they technically met FCC requirements, (which could often be accomplished with a single tower in a license area. e.g. Bemidji, MN) they did not exert themselves to provide service in areas that required extra effort. For instance, how long did it take for them to push the issue to get coverage in National Parks? (e.g. Yosemite, Yellowstone). National Parks, like all Federal lands were excluded from FCC build-out requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    It was 3/18/2008. The TV stations repacked about 2010. Between about 2000 and 2010 BellSouth/AT&T provided pretty good coverage in 2/3 of Mississippi using just mid-band, just as Viaero provided pretty good coverage in Nebraska using mid-band. I'm saying that T-Mobile under-deployed their available licenses in rural areas, when compared with some other mid-band-only carriers. Their attitude seemed to be one of "urban service first and foremost". While they technically met FCC requirements, (which could often be accomplished with a single tower in a license area. e.g. Bemidji, MN) they did not exert themselves to provide service in areas that required extra effort. For instance, how long did it take for them to push the issue to get coverage in National Parks? (e.g. Yosemite, Yellowstone). National Parks, like all Federal lands were excluded from FCC build-out requirements.
    So you are going back in the ancient history of cell phones to make your point about T-Mobile that was a regional network back then like MetroPCS was a metro coverage network also. Nebraska is flat earth not like the Mississippi Delta with erosion that made rolling hills and valleys. T-Mobile has never had any similar amount of spectrum as AT&T. That is all history now, not present day.

    Who in your opinion of the four networks has done the best job nationwide in the last 5 years deploying the greatest percentage of all the spectrum they own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shilohcane View Post
    So you are going back in the ancient history ........
    The difference between Americans and many other cultures is that Americans believe that 100 years is a long time, while Europeans (for instance) believe that 100 miles is a long distance. I was just pointing out that some carriers found a way to provide good rural coverage with mid-band licenses. Physics hasn't changed in the last 10 years.

    Who in your opinion of the four networks has done the best job nationwide in the last 5 years deploying the greatest percentage of all the spectrum they own?
    Probably Verizon. T-Mobile is making progress but around here they still have a lot of band-2-only towers. Probably still running the original 1900 MHz antennas from the GSM days of ancient history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    The difference between Americans and many other cultures is that Americans believe that 100 years is a long time, while Europeans (for instance) believe that 100 miles is a long distance. I was just pointing out that some carriers found a way to provide good rural coverage with mid-band licenses. Physics hasn't changed in the last 10 years.

    Probably Verizon. T-Mobile is making progress but around here they still have a lot of band-2-only towers. Probably still running the original 1900 MHz antennas from the GSM days of ancient history.
    Ok I accept your opinion. Looks like US Cellular is planing on deploying their first 600 MHz. What about Cspire’s 600 MHz
    Deployment in your area?

    “ U.S. Cellular’s 5G aspirations

    U.S. Cellular is in the process of completing the final stages of its Voice over LTE (VoLTE) rollout and beginning its multi-year rollout of 5G, starting with its initial 5G deployment in 2020 using its 600 MHz spectrum. It plans to augment that, likely later this year, with millimeter wave spectrum to increase speeds and support future use cases, he said.“ https://www.fiercewireless.com/opera...le-sprint-deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by shilohcane View Post
    ......What about Cspire’s 600 MHz Deployment in your area? .....
    My only source of data on that would be CellMapper and they have not yet differentiated CSpire's coverage by band.

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