Truphone: Alcatel 4052R (AT&T) SMARTFLIP my only option?

**cellular-dude** · 08-19-2020, 06:24 PM

This phone, at least mine does not prompt for the unlock code when inserting a foreign sim. The code AT&T sent was useless. I never did figure out how to input the code.

**Boz1** · 08-19-2020, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by cellular-dude

This phone, at least mine does not prompt for the unlock code when inserting a foreign sim. The code AT&T sent was useless. I never did figure out how to input the code.

Maybe it's already unlocked if it doesn't?

**djphilosophy** · 08-19-2020, 11:08 PM

From what I remember reading, AT&T is no longer unlocking non-customers phones like they used to. I'd be thrilled to hear otherwise. Especially if they unlock Cricket devices.

**WheelieBoot** · 08-20-2020, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by cellular-dude

This phone, at least mine does not prompt for the unlock code when inserting a foreign sim. The code AT&T sent was useless. I never did figure out how to input the code.

I haven't heard back yet on the unlock request, I think it's more like 24-48 hours but will say when I get the email. Here are the unlock instructions for one of my other AT&T phones.

Unlock instructions:

1. Power off the device.

2. Insert non-AT&T SIM card.

3. Power on the device.

4. Enter the unlock code provided.

5. Select Unlock.

6. The device is unlocked.

Enter the code like dialing a number from the keypad. I think it gives more chances if the number is entered wrong. It did work for my three older phones.

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**cellular-dude** · 08-20-2020, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Boz1

Maybe it's already unlocked if it doesn't?

Nope it's sim locked. It at least gives that message with a foreign sim.

**cellular-dude** · 08-20-2020, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by djphilosophy

From what I remember reading, AT&T is no longer unlocking non-customers phones like they used to. I'd be thrilled to hear otherwise. Especially if they unlock Cricket devices.

Last time I tried unlocking a Cricket phone I was turned down as not their phone.

**cellular-dude** · 08-20-2020, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by WheelieBoot

I haven't heard back yet on the unlock request, I think it's more like 24-48 hours but will say when I get the email. Here are the unlock instructions for one of my other AT&T phones.

Unlock instructions:

1. Power off the device.

2. Insert non-AT&T SIM card.

3. Power on the device.

4. Enter the unlock code provided.

5. Select Unlock.

6. The device is unlocked.

Enter the code like dialing a number from the keypad. I think it gives more chances if the number is entered wrong. It did work for my three older phones.

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Yeah they sent me all this also, even with the code.

**WheelieBoot** · 08-20-2020, 08:33 AM

I came across a Reddit thread that deals with an AT&T unlock. They're saying that they unlocked their AT&T phone using a TracFone SIM and now the phone is locked to T-Mobile. The TF SIM must have been GSM/T-Mo. I didn't realize that could happen. Has anyone experienced that, and is that going to be an issue with anyone buying a used unlocked cellphone?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comment...m_source=share

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**zapjb** · 08-20-2020, 12:41 PM

Tracfone is evil.

**djphilosophy** · 08-20-2020, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by WheelieBoot

I came across a Reddit thread that deals with an AT&T unlock. They're saying that they unlocked their AT&T phone using a TracFone SIM and now the phone is locked to T-Mobile. The TF SIM must have been GSM/T-Mo. I didn't realize that could happen. Has anyone experienced that, and is that going to be an issue with anyone buying a used unlocked cellphone?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comment...m_source=share

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They didn't actually test other SIMs (e.g. their old AT&T SIM) to see if it's truly locked. Seems more likely it's just the app saying it's locked when it isn't.

**Yeswap** · 08-20-2020, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by WheelieBoot

I came across a Reddit thread that deals with an AT&T unlock. They're saying that they unlocked their AT&T phone using a TracFone SIM and now the phone is locked to T-Mobile. The TF SIM must have been GSM/T-Mo. I didn't realize that could happen. Has anyone experienced that, and is that going to be an issue with anyone buying a used unlocked cellphone?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comment...m_source=share

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I don't think the redditor's phone is actually locked to TracFone or T-Mobile. Since the S7, Samsung flagships have installed carrier apps when you change SIMs. On T-Mobile and T-Mobile MVNOs the apps include the T-Mobile unlock app which falsely claims the phone is locked on unlocked non-T-Mobile phones.

**zapjb** · 08-20-2020, 01:25 PM

What can possibly be the reason other than fooling some people into buying new phones?

**WheelieBoot** · 08-21-2020, 02:27 PM

Well, no unlock yet from AT&T on my Smartflip. Got an email from them today saying they're still researching my eligibility so I *suspect* this time they may not grant it.

The other 3 phones they gave me unlock codes for were older and that may have been why they released those. The Smartflip is new and they may want to hang onto it hoping I'll activate it on AT&T. I want it for H20. I really don't have to unlock it for that. Red Pocket I would.

I'll post as soon as I get the verdict.

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**Haas_Dave** · 08-21-2020, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by WheelieBoot

Well, no unlock yet from AT&T on my Smartflip. Got an email from them today saying they're still researching my eligibility so I *suspect* this time they may not grant it.

The other 3 phones they gave me unlock codes for were older and that may have been why they released those. The Smartflip is new and they may want to hang onto it hoping I'll activate it on AT&T. I want it for H20. I really don't have to unlock it for that. Red Pocket I would.

I'll post as soon as I get the verdict.

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I wouldn't see why you can't use it on H2O or Red Pocket GSMA (but you would need an unlock for GSMT). Those should be using SIMs with ICCID starting with 8901410.

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**WheelieBoot** · 08-21-2020, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Haas_Dave

I wouldn't see why you can't use it on H2O or Red Pocket GSMA (but you would need an unlock for GSMT). Those should be using SIMs with ICCID starting with 8901410.

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Right, I have H20 already on another phone I like but it's 3g. I figure when 3g no longer works on that flip, I'll move the SIM to the Smartflip.

Still no word on yea or nay from AT&T on unlock. It's the weekend ahead so I figure next week sometime.

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