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    Using my PC's internet connection

    Hi,

    Here's the scenario :

    My phone : T616

    Connectivity :

    Serial Data Cable on COM2

    Belkin Bluetooth adapter :
    T616\Serial port configured on COM4 (this is the serial port service offered by the T616)
    My Device\Serial port configured on COM5 (this is the serial port service offered by the Belkin Bluetooth adapter)
    My Device\LAN Access Server

    I am using Mobile Phone Monitor (that's what I get with the T616). All the above ports are appropriately enabled in the Phone Monitor. I have verified this by using XTNDConnectPC to sync using the serial cable as well as by "connecting" on COM4 (the T616 serial port). I have also tried using the modem in my cellphone and browsing on the laptop (after disconnecting the DSL connection) using the modem in the cell phone and ATTs GPRS data service. All that works fine.

    Now here's what I want to do : I want to browse on the cellphone (not the laptop) *without* incurring data charges by the KB from ATT. I want to do this by using the internet connection on my PC from my cell phone. Obviously there are a couple of problems :

    1. Where do I find a suitable HTML browser for the T616 ?

    The internal WAP browser ends up using the ATT GPRS service and there is no way to configure it to use my cable or Bluetooth connection.

    I have looked around and most of the browsers available for download (Opera, Doris Browser) require a P800 or better phone based on the Symbian OS. The T616 unfortunately does not fall in that category. Does anybody know of any suitable HTML browser for my phone (T616) ?

    2. I have tried downloading the browser WebViewer to my phone and using that, but that is not free (I used a trial copy) and I cannot make it use my serial cable or Bluetooth either.

    3. I do not understand how to establish TCP/IP connectivity between my cellphone and laptop such that the internet browsing will end up using my DSL connection. I have been able to connect the COM port but how do I ask the cell phone to use the connection over the COM port instead of the GPRS service from ATT ?

    I read in some forum that this can be done on the Nokia using a software called M-Router (which ships for the Nokia phones). That will set up a bridge between the COM port connection and the internect connection.

    My T616 uses the Mobile Phone Monitor (and not M-Router) I tried using Win XP "bridge connections" to do the same but I could not do it successfully.

    I also read somewhere that I modify the parameters under Connect -> Data Comm -> (some account name) -> Edit -> IP Address to use my laptop as the gateway. I tried that too (I set my laptop's IP address as the IP address in the field). Again no luck.

    I then called up ATT but they did not have a clue and redirected me to Sony Ericsson. SE's "tech support" guy told me he was very confused, asked me whether the browser I had downloaded was SE and when I said no he said he did not to support that. The guy was a clueless @#%&&%^@*.

    Any ideas ? Has anybody done this successfully ever with the T616 ?? Since I've read that it can be done with Nokia phones and the M-Router software I am sure there must be a way to do it with the T616 too.

    Does anybody here know how to configure an HTML browser in the phone to go over the COM port connection ? That's the million dollar question :-)

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    ^Bump^ Interesting... I'd like to know aswell.

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    Sounds kewl if anyone knows how..

    <BUMP>

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    This works !

    Well, I managed to do what I set out to do (using my PCs internet connection to browse on my T616). Here's how :

    1. Install the J2ME SDK from Sony Ericsson. You can find it on the S.E. developers' site. This is slightly different from the one you will find on the Sun site, and you will need to use Sony Ericsson's version.

    Now, here are some parameters you will need handy. Please replace the values with your appropriate ones.

    Serial data cable to T616 connected on : COM1
    The IP address of my PC : 192.168.0.100

    1. In your cell phone, create a new data account called test.

    This can be done by opening the menu in your T616 and going to Connect -> Data Comm -> Data Accounts -> New Account
    Use the following parameters :
    GPRS data
    Name : test
    APN : <leave blank>
    User id : <leave blank>
    Password : <leave blank>

    Save this data account

    2. Create a new WAP profile called test.

    Connect -> Data Comm -> WAP Profiles -> New Profile
    Use the following parameters :
    Name : test
    Connect using : select the data account called "test"
    IP Address : 192.168.000.100 (replace this with the IP of your PC)
    Save this profile

    3. Activate this new WAP profile (select it as the default for all data transfers)

    Connect -> Data Comm -> WAP Profiles -> Test

    4. Connect your data cable.

    5. Ensure that the correct COM port is enabled in the Sony Ericsson Phone Monitor. I have enabled COM1, you would need to enable your own COM port.

    6. Start the Connection Proxy which is installed when you installed the Sony Ericsson J2ME SDK. I can find my Connection Proxy under : Start -> Programs -> Sony Ericsson -> J2ME SDK -> Connection Proxy.

    7. Set your correct COM port in the connection proxy.
    File->Settings->COM1
    Baud Rate : 57600 [ you can push this up later after everything works]

    8. Click on Connect. The status should change to :
    "Connected on COM1 at 57600"
    If this did not work, you've either got the wrong cable, got your port wrong, or the port is not enabled in the Mobile Phone Monitor.

    9. Once the phone and PC are connected, start the Device Explorer which was installed with the Sony Ericsson J2ME SDK. I can find this under : Start -> Programs -> Sony Ericsson -> J2ME SDK -> Device Explorer.

    It will automatically try to connect to your phone and after it is connected, you should see a tree structure listing the applications installed on your phone. If this cannot connect or times out, you've again got something wrong with the COM port.

    10. Go to the file menu in the Device Explorer and enable the option called "Serial Networking".

    11. Exit the Device explorer (because the serial n/w option does not take effect until you restart).

    12. Restart the Device Explorer. Wait until you see the tree structure listing the applications on your phone.

    13. You are now ready to test the TCP/IP connectivity between your phone and PC.
    I have installed Webviewer [a Java based HTML browser for the T616].
    You can find this at : http://www.reqwireless.com/download-webviewer.html

    You will need to download the jad file as well as the jar file.

    14. To install the webviewer application, after downloading these 2 files, place them in the same folder.

    15. Go back to your Device Explorer.
    File -> Install.

    Browse to the folder and select the location of the jar as well as jad files. After entering both locations, click Install. The application should be uploaded to your phone. Once it is uploaded, it will appear in the list of installed apps in Device Explorer.

    16. Select the app Webviewer->Webviewer. Right click and select Start. This will start the application in your phone. You will see the Java icon etc and then the webviewer app will appear.

    17. Enter any reassonable URL such as http://www.google.com
    Note that webviewer is a HTML browser and not a wap browser so you can go to any regular web site on your cell phone.

    18. After entering the URL, you should see "Contacting server" at the bottom in the status bar.

    19. You might then be prompted to allow web access. I get the options :
    Allow Web Access
    Ask Per Access
    Deny Web Access

    Select the option "Allow Web Access".

    20. You should see the status "Waiting for Reply" followed by the status bar showing the download progress.

    21. If the status bar is stuck at "Waiting for Reply", try clicking "Disconnect" followed "Connect" in the Connection Proxy. You will need to exit and restart the webviewer app if you disconnect.

    22. If that does not help, try removing the cable, shutting off the phone, restarting the phone, and attaching the cable again. You will then need to restart the Connection Proxy followed by restarting the Device Explorer.

    23. If you do see the Google home page, there is still one important thing. Make sure that you do not see the internet connection (GPRS data) icon at the top left of your cell phone. This icon looks like a globe symbol, and indicates that you are using your cell phone service provider's GPRS data service and therefore not using the serial cable and PC connection. If this happens, follow the instructions in the previous step #21

    Hint : When the phone is exchanging data with the PC, the Connection Proxy will show green arrows to indicated data transfer. The in and out byte counts should also keep going up. If you are able to browse but do not see the green arrows and byte counts going up in the Connection proxy then you are somehow using your service provider's GPRS service and therefore paying for the airtime and/or data transfer by the KB. That is not what you want to do.


    Now for the final toast : I was able to do the same over a Bluetooth connection between my phone and PC. Instead of the data cable, I connected over a serial port defined under the services published by the cell phone device. Make sure you select that COM port number in the Connection Proxy. Also ensure that Bluetooth has been enabled and the cell phone has been correctly paired with the PC. Everything else remains the same.

    Have fun. It took me many weeks to get this working, since I had to figure out every step by trial and error.
    If you are stuck and cannot get something to work, I might take a look (depending on how busy I am on that day). You can write to me at [email protected]

    Happy browsing.

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    Thats so cool but how do you find out your computers ip address?

    Is it the client ip address when you choose status for the internet connection.

    Thanks for such a great idea!!!

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    to find out your ip try going here http://www.chami.com/tips/internet/041498I.html

    I have a few questions, I e-mailed jamshedd but he must be busy so mabay someone elsecould answer. Thanks.

    1. Has anyone got a direct link to the J2ME SDK that you need because I'm not sure if I have the right thing?

    2. Whats a COM port?

    I only got down to number 4 so there may be more questions. Any help would be great. Thanks.

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    I had to register first but downloaded the latest Sony Ericsson J2ME SDK from here:

    http://developer.sonyericsson.com/si...ava/p_java.jsp

    I don't really understand the com port stuff properly but it think its just so that the phone sends information to the computer at the same place where the software is looking for it.

    I was using bluetooth for this and i don't have mobile phone monitor installed. All I did was, connect a serial port connection with the bluetooth device and the T610 and then opened up the connection proxy and chose the correct COM port (it told me which COM port when i connected the bluetooth).

    Hope this helps!

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    This doesn't work for me...i don't have the WAP options on my current firmware. It's the original firmware installed on the phone when i got it about 6 mo's ago.

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    My phone has the original firmware too, and it definitely has the WAP options.

    Do this :

    1. Go to the menu of your phone (press the joystick in the middle).

    2. Go to the connect menu (found in the bottom left corner of the menu)

    3. Inside the Connect Menu item, you will see multiple options such as

    Bluetooth
    Infrared Port
    WAP Options
    Synchronization

    WAP is the third option. Select that.

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    okay...what i didn't have is the NEW WAP CONNECTION option. All i had was the AWS and AWS MMP, i changed the configs on AWS (eliminating the ability for me to use AWS mMode) just to try this...and stupid me forgot to write down the AWS IP addy. DOH!!!

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    SUCCESS!!!!!!

    I have successfully browsed Google over my phone...then the battery died LOL.

    Now...the only things i can't seem to figure out is how to access WebViewer after it is in the phone. It worked the first time cus i was asked if i wanted to start the application now (on the phone) and I clicked "yup". also..the globe did appear the first time I connected...so I'm not entirely sure this worked...but nevertheless it was exciting

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    Starting WebViewer

    Congratulations on getting it running.

    You can start WebViewer as follows :

    1. Go to the menu of your T616 (by pressing the joystick in the middle).

    2. Go to "Entertainment". This is the 2nd row, third column. THis is where your games should be.

    3. Select "Games and More"

    4. You should see WebViewer listed.

    5. Highlight it. Then press Start.

    Note : The trial version of WebViewer has a limit on the number of times you can use it to browse in a single day. I think the number is 10 times. If you hit the cap, one work around is to go to the Sony Ericsson Device Manager and delete the application from your phone and then reinstall it. The disadvantage is that any settings including bookmarks, home page etc would be lost.

    Happy browsing !

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    Restoring the AWS settings

    FYI : The IP in the AWS MMS profile was blank.

    You can restore the AWS WAP profile settings by going to the ATTWS website :

    https://secure.mouse2mobile.com/clie...wap/3phone.asp

    [you might have to login with your account first]

    Select your phone, enter your mobile number, and you will receive the settings on your cell phone similar to an SMS. This is called OTA (over the air) provisioning.

    You will be prompted to save the settings on your phone, and you should choose yes. When asked to overwrite, select yes again.

    Or call up ATTWS customer service and after 45 min of being on hold they will send you the settings and you will receive it on your phone.

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    hi.

    i've followed the above instructions and couldnt get webviewer to load google.

    if i start webviewer through the SE deviceexplorer and try to load a page, it gives me a "cannot connect to server" error.

    if i start webviewer through the phone menus and try to load a page, it will ask me if i want to "allow access" to webviewer. once i press yes, it just gets stuck on "waiting for reply"

    any clues..? ive tried shutting down and restarting numerous times already.

    thanks.

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    Try this :

    1. Remove the data cable
    2. Power off your phone
    3. Exit Device Explorer
    4. Exit the Connection Proxy
    5. Reconnect the data cable
    6. Power on the phone and wait until it has initialized completely (you should be able to browse the address book in your phone)
    7. Start the connection proxy and connect to the phone.
    8. Start the Device Explorer
    9. Start the WebViewer application
    10 Try going to google.com

    For some reason, powering off the phone has usually helped.

    If the above doesn't work then you've might have got your WAP profile not setup as required (see the previous posts).

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