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    American moving to london has a few questions..

    Hey there guys and gals,
    I'm moving to london for a year at the end of the month to start a new job out there. I was just wondering if someone could point me to a website that explains how cell phone contracts or pay as you go works over there?

    Here come the questions:
    -Is it true that all mobiles in London/UK/Europe get free incoming calls?

    -Also, is it wiser to get a contract (to get a better phone) or to get a pay as u go (and sacrifice getting the flashiest phone out there)?

    I know in the states (I'm on Verizon btw) i get 400 peak mins and unlimited nites/weekends/off-peak for about $40 a month (before taxes and surcharges). I saw that for about 30 pounds a month the contract offered 200 peak mins and free weekends along with a lot of free text messages. If anyone could take the time to explain why there are less minutes, why you'd get charged more for calling another network, and whatever they can about tariffs I would greatly appreciate it.

    Otherwise thanks and I'll see you all soon! lol
    -nik

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    Hey there,

    you're getting into the boat that I just left behind in May after 18 months of living in London.

    Yes, there is free incoming on all UK and most European providers. As a result, outgoing calls and monthly contracts/prepaid plans are more expensive than in the US.

    Here are some tips to get you started:

    http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/uk.html

    http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=255549

    Contracts: http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/com...et?typ=MONTHLY

    http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_main.asp

    Prepaid:
    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/com...rvlet?typ=PPAY

    http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_payg_main.asp

    I recommend that you visit The Carphone Warehouse, Phones4U, The Link and the O2, Vodafone, Orange and Virgin Megastores to see what special deals they have for you.

    Let me know if you have more questions,
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    Canadian going to UK for 2 months

    Hi Triband,

    I am pretty new to cell phones, having not owned one for about a year... I am from Burnaby, British Columbia and I am going to the UK for Uni exchange from September to December. I have a couple of questions:

    Can I bring a triband phone (such as the SE T610/616) and then buy a SIM pay as you talk pack in the UK? Would the phone be compatible with those pay as you talk SIM cards?

    And if I am bringing my own phone what should I do about the difference in the voltage of the chargers? Should I buy a charger in the UK when i get there?

    thanks in advance!

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    Question 1: Yup, go with the T610 since it has the GSM 900 and you definitely want the 900 band when spending time in Europe since GSM 900 is the primary band used by a lot of European networks. The SIM card packs are anywhere between 10 pounds for Virgin Mobile UK (uses T-Mobile's UK towers @GSM 1800) to 30 pounds for a SIM card pack from O2, Orange or Vodafone UK. See my thread about Virgin Mobile UK:

    http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=255549

    You can use the SE T616 in Europe but then you would be limited to the GSM 1800 band so then you could only use Orange UK, T-Mobile UK or Virgin Mobile UK.

    Make sure your phone is unlocked (this means that it will accept other providers' SIM cards).

    Question 2: The ideal charger needs to have 220-240V. The UK has three-pronged plugs so you have the choice between a travel adapter from Sony Ericsson, a converter with applicable adapters or a UK charger.

    http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?...lm=pp4&cid=109

    Have a look and ask away

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    So i was thinking of getting the Moto v80 on Orange when I get out there. I wanted to get the 25 pound/month 120 min anytime/network plan. I'd get 240 mins for the first6 months at no extra cost and the rates for calling out of network seem very reasonable, as well as the rates for calling back to the US.

    The reason i wanted to get the v80 is that i'd be able to get it for free. The question(s) I had was, in your opinion, do you think it's worth getting a contract? Or just stick to pay as you go method? Essentially, is it worth shelling out for a contract to avoid paying for a phone?

    Also, are their additional taxes or surcharges on a monthly contract? (For example, my monthly verizon bill is supposed to be $39.99 but ends up being $52 after taxes and crap)

    Any opinions on the fone and network would be great too!

    Thanks man!
    -nik
    Last edited by mach30; 08-09-2004 at 06:32 PM.

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    thanks triband, I looked at a few of the travel chargers and searched for them on the net too.. then i hit up ebay, and found "generic chargers" like this one:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...315190087&rd=1

    first, if it says it'll charge the T610, would it charge the T616?

    And since it's a third party charger, is that worse for the phone than getting an official SE travel charger??

    And is using JUST the GSM 1800 reception tolerable (this is only for 3 months in Lancaster, UK... I won't be using a cell for travelling around europe), cause afterwards I'm going to be using the phone in the GVA and may prefer the T616 over the T610 for the long run

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    Originally posted by mach30
    So i was thinking of getting the Moto v80 on Orange when I get out there. I wanted to get the 25 pound/month 120 min anytime/network plan. I'd get 240 mins for the first6 months at no extra cost and the rates for calling out of network seem very reasonable, as well as the rates for calling back to the US.

    The reason i wanted to get the v80 is that i'd be able to get it for free. The question(s) I had was, in your opinion, do you think it's worth getting a contract? Or just stick to pay as you go method? Essentially, is it worth shelling out for a contract to avoid paying for a phone?

    Also, are their additional taxes or surcharges on a monthly contract? (For example, my monthly verizon bill is supposed to be $39.99 but ends up being $52 after taxes and crap)

    Any opinions on the fone and network would be great too!

    Thanks man!
    -nik
    It depends on your level of usage. If you'll be making a lot of calls, look into a contract with Orange. Pay a visit to an Orange store and tell them exactly how much you'd be using the phone. That way, they can hook you up with the best plan. Normally, UK contracts last 12-months and require you to have a UK bank connection as well as certification of a UK address (i.e. utility bill/telephone bill/bank statement).

    The V80 costs 0 pounds with this Carphone Warehouse offer: http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/com...GMOTV80BTORNSO

    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/com...AUGUST.WELCOME

    Motorola V80 (229.99 Pounds for just the handset)

    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/com...&ORDER=Sort+by
    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/com...ShoppingBasket

    Check with them though as the requirements differ by provider. I haven't used the V80, have a look in the Motorola subforum, I noticed a couple threads in there recently. Orange's network is very mature and expansive. All European GSM providers have reliable coverage in cities and outerlying areas so you shouldn't have any problems anywhere you go.

    Your best is to go to the UK and visit Orange, Carphone Warehouse or Phones4U to see who has the best deal. I bought my phones at CPW and their salespersonnel are quite knowledgable.

    Hope this helps,

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    Originally posted by Eurobound
    thanks triband, I looked at a few of the travel chargers and searched for them on the net too.. then i hit up ebay, and found "generic chargers" like this one:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...315190087&rd=1

    first, if it says it'll charge the T610, would it charge the T616?

    And since it's a third party charger, is that worse for the phone than getting an official SE travel charger??

    And is using JUST the GSM 1800 reception tolerable (this is only for 3 months in Lancaster, UK... I won't be using a cell for travelling around europe), cause afterwards I'm going to be using the phone in the GVA and may prefer the T616 over the T610 for the long run
    It should charge the T616 as well since the two models are exactly the same with the exception that the T616 was released a North American model (with the North American bands) to the European T610.

    You will have very solid coverage in the UK with either Orange, T-Mobile or Virgin Mobile. A lot of people who travel to the UK are most satisfied with Orange. My German E-Plus SIM card used both Orange and T-Mobile UK and I got a better signal with Orange than with T-Mobile.

    I've posted this question in a UK forum that I frequent. I don't know if someone will be able to answer your question right away but follow that thread and see if that helps:

    http://www.n-gage-help.com/modules.p...wtopic&p=20736

    Also look at Orange UK's maps:

    http://coverage.orange.co.uk/uk/UKCoverageSearch.htm

    If you know exactly where you'll be in Lancaster, enter the Postal Code or the street and zoom in on the map until blue triangles show up. The triangles are the base stations and upon clicking on the triangles, you'll find out whose tower that is:

    http://www.sitefinder.radio.gov.uk/frame_map.htm

    Happy Hunting

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    i personally go for an O2 online contract off their website, these contracts are great for texting as you get about 500 free texts a month. Calls are also relatively cheap and they always have the newest phones for sale (cheap or free).

    When you get to england...visit THE LINK. They have shops pretty much everywhere. they deal with phones and contracts on all service providers. just go into a branch and you tell the advisors all the details you want and they'll come up with the contract that best suits you. Saves you going to many different places, its everything under one roof Trust me...i work for the company that owns THE LINK
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    i personally go for an O2 online contract off their website, these contracts are great for texting as you get about 500 free texts a month. Calls are also relatively cheap and they always have the newest phones for sale (cheap or free).

    When you get to england...visit THE LINK. They have shops pretty much everywhere. they deal with phones and contracts on all service providers. just go into a branch and you tell the advisors all the details you want and they'll come up with the contract that best suits you. Saves you going to many different places, its everything under one roof Trust me...i work for the company that owns THE LINK

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    Originally posted by Bigfourskin
    i personally go for an O2 online contract off their website, these contracts are great for texting as you get about 500 free texts a month. Calls are also relatively cheap and they always have the newest phones for sale (cheap or free).

    When you get to england...visit THE LINK. They have shops pretty much everywhere. they deal with phones and contracts on all service providers. just go into a branch and you tell the advisors all the details you want and they'll come up with the contract that best suits you. Saves you going to many different places, its everything under one roof Trust me...i work for the company that owns THE LINK
    Yeah that must be Dixon's you work for , The Link is also a great alternative but I preferred CPW when I lived in London.

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