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    Telefonica Buying out Bell south in Latin America

    I wanted to know what people thought now that Telefonica movil now tha they bought Bell South in Latin America? you think Telefonica will make all those Bell South CDMA operations into GSM opercations?

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    Good question, it depends on whether it's even financially feasible to convert all of the towers. Better yet, they may choose to simply add GSM overlays to the existing CDMA towers.
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    I dont think that they will convert to GSM (unless their CDMA is cdma2k -- even then though...it doesnt sound good). I predict that UMTS/HSPDA will be the overlay
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    Will, I would be nice to have more GSM option and keep there CDMA for the exsisting people. Will I saw in Guatemala that PCS Digital had CDMA now they run both CDMA and GSM, also in Honduras with Celtel they had CDMA and now they run GSM 850 mhz. Telefonica also had CDMA in Mexico and now the have both maybe now Telefonica will do the same w/ what they did in Mexico.

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    Originally posted by calinica
    Will, I would be nice to have more GSM option and keep there CDMA for the exsisting people. Will I saw in Guatemala that PCS Digital had CDMA now they run both CDMA and GSM, also in Honduras with Celtel they had CDMA and now they run GSM 850 mhz. Telefonica also had CDMA in Mexico and now the have both maybe now Telefonica will do the same w/ what they did in Mexico.
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    Something GSM/W-CDMA/HSDPA will be fine with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralAK
    I dont think that they will convert to GSM (unless their CDMA is cdma2k -- even then though...it doesnt sound good). I predict that UMTS/HSPDA will be the overlay
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    I'm not sure what the situation is in other countries, but in Argetina Telefónica replaced most Movicom (Bellsouth) CDMA phones with Movistar-branded GSM ones. THey have removed all CDMA handsets from their website's "Featured Phones" list.

    The full phone list shows a few Kyoceras and the Nokia 6225, apart from those it's all GSM.

    In terms of coverage and actual phone availability I'm not so sure Telefónica has replaced CDMA with GSM (haven't been to Argentina for well over a year), but from their website it certainly looks that way.

    I think something similar happened in Mexico when the spaniards bought Pégaso. They were CDMA and have shifted to GSM.
    Last edited by Livino; 01-05-2006 at 06:54 PM.

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    So you think they just shut off the existing CDMA equipment and let the GSM overlays take over?

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    Not a chance. They've got a large CDMA base, and AFAIK they still keep their analog coverage, let alone CDMA.

    But they definitely seem to be shifting new activations to their GSM platform.

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    I see how that could be a problem. How are people using their CDMA phones in areas where there is no digital coverage? Is there still an AMPS (analog) network operating in places like southern Argentina or even up in the remote areas of Brazil?

    No doubt, I'll see a lot of your fellow citizens here in Cologne when they come to town to play in the World Cup. Cologne is hosting several of the matches (I live close to the stadium) and I remember the local press mentioning a while back that a lot of Brazilians would be coming to Cologne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralAK
    I dont think that they will convert to GSM (unless their CDMA is cdma2k -- even then though...it doesnt sound good). I predict that UMTS/HSPDA will be the overlay
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    I personally think in latin america they neeed cdma to expand coverage cause in general from what i know belive it covers more but i really dont know im a us gsm junkie it keeps me happy wher ever i go... my cousin was very happy with using her cali tmo phone to text from dublin all the way to belfast she said she had full service 95% of the time she was on various networks

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    Brazil has a built-out CDMA infrastructure. You can view Latin American CDMA info here:

    http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp?h_area=3

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