Currently trying out Vegolink SIM Pro - an international data roaming service

I attempted to install a Vegolink eSim on my Pixel 6a. The eSim installed, but was unable to connect to a network. Victor at Vegolink offered the following explanation and instructions.


The issue you're currently encountering with your eSIM is a known problem that arose after the 3G shutdown in the US. This issue is specifically related to the profile provisioning we employ in the US. According to the messages exchanged between your eSIM and our system, it appears that the profile has been provisioned successfully. However, the automatic switchover process failed, necessitating manual profile selection for the initial mobile data connection. Subsequently, the automatic profile switchover functionality should begin to operate smoothly.

1) Locate [the App called] USIM Services (Android) or SIM Applications (iOS) on your device.

2) Navigate to DMI > Settings > Profile and ensure that a profile starting with "26003" is present. If it is, simply select it, and your internet connection should become active within a few seconds.

3) If you don't find the profile, it indicates a provisioning issue. This is often linked to the absence of a 3G network, as profile provisioning doesn't operate with 4G/LTE connectivity. The workaround is straightforward:
Change the Network mode for your Vegolink SIM or eSIM to 3G (or 2G).
Wait for a brief period. The profile will be provisioned.
Then, return to DMI > Settings > Profile and verify that the "26003" profile is both present and active.

Please note that a permanent solution will be implemented in the upcoming batch of Vegolink products. We are planning to include the US-specific profile in the upcoming batch of SIM/eSIM cards. This will eliminate the need for profile provisioning, thus resolving the issue comprehensively.

I'd like to mention that I am currently focused on establishing a presence in Canada, with the aim of enhancing our delivery and customer support speed in North America.


Victor's instructions worked perfectly. I thank Victor and Vegolink for their assistance.
 
I think it'd like to try this as a AT&T secondary/backup to go along with my US Mobile (Verizon) service. I have reached out to Vegolink on eBay to see about getting an eSim and I'll report my findings.
 


I'd like to mention that I am currently focused on establishing a presence in Canada, with the aim of enhancing our delivery and customer support speed in North America.


Just saw this post and zeroed in on the mention of Canada.

I just checked their current rates for Canada. Not bad at all. I won’t have to get a Canadian prepaid card on my trips to Canada.

The rate is still a bit higher compared to Austria or Switzerland but still much better than local rates. I used Vegolink when I was in Vienna and Zurich earlier this year. My daily expense for data wasn’t more than $2 per day.

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I think it'd like to try this as a AT&T secondary/backup to go along with my US Mobile (Verizon) service. I have reached out to Vegolink on eBay to see about getting an eSim and I'll report my findings.

I now have Vegolink set up as a secondary sim and it seems to be working fine. It took awhile (~1 hour) for the eSim to go from "No service" to being usable, but support through eBay was extremely responsive. I ended up disabling my primary sim entirely and doing a phone restart. Not sure if that helped the activation to finish or it was just a matter of waiting long enough. The only other setting I had changed was selecting LTE/4G, which was part of the instructions.
 
Short version

To get mine working, it was most important to run an app named "USIM Services" and select a 26003 profile.


I just noticed a detail in stususs' post that I had glanced over:
3) If you don't find the profile, it indicates a provisioning issue. This is often linked to the absence of a 3G network, as profile provisioning doesn't operate with 4G/LTE connectivity. The workaround is straightforward:
Change the Network mode for your Vegolink SIM or eSIM to 3G (or 2G).
Wait for a brief period. The profile will be provisioned.

I suspect what happened to me was that my Nord N200 was finally able to connect to T-Mobile 2G to provision the 26003 profile. So to make a brand new Vegolink SIM work in the US right now, you have to have a phone that can connect to T-Mobile 2G. I am not aware of anyone else still having 2G or 3G left in the US. Even T-Mobile 2G will be shutdown on April 2, 2024:
https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/t-mobile-network-evolution

An unlocked AT&T Prepaid phone may not connect to T-Mobile 2G. I had a Samsung A157 (AT&T Prepaid) that worked with T-Mobile Legacy Pay As You Go for a long while, but stopped working when T-Mobile moved a 3G band to LTE, even though T-Mobile 2G still was available.
https://www.howardforums.com/showth...not-allowed-MM-6-quot?p=16977205#post16977205



Long version

I mentioned Vegolink SIM as my best alternative/backup to FreedomPop.
https://www.howardforums.com/showth...SIM-spotted-at-target?p=17263093#post17263093

Purchase

I went through TopCashback to eBay, and 0.5% tracked the next day.

Amex Offers $5 credit posted the third day.
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/amex-offers-ebay-spend-15-get-5-statement-credit/

A regular #10 envelope arrived one day shy of eBay's longest estimated delivery date.
The envelope used a C $1.30 stamp, and was postmarked in Toronto.
Inside the envelope were a letter and a triple-cut SIM.

The SIM was already separated from the letter.
I used masking tape to clean off glue residue.
It would have been better if Vegolink had just attached the SIM to the letter using a small loop of masking tape.

By the way, I found out later that eBay stopped forwarding my eBay Messages. It caused me to miss a 5% offer: "Because you viewed this item, here's a special offer."
I then figured out that to have eBay forward messages, I had to subscribe to General email promotions (Account > Communication Preferences > Marketing Communications), and stay subscribed.
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Ask-a-Mentor/Forwarding-messages-from-Ebay-to-my-email/td-p/33259918

Telegram

The letter mainly has information about using Telegram to check balance.

I was able to register for Telegram using my Google Voice number.
The app is just called Telegram, not Telegram messenger.
I did not know what "Chats section" was -- you are in it as soon as you open the app.

So:
  • Install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.messenger&hl=en >
  • In search bar on top, enter "vegolink" > tap Vegolink bot > START or RESTART >
  • Settings at bottom > My Vegolink products > Add Vegolink product > enter 12-digit Product ID > enter Security Code
  • Main Menu at bottom > Check balance
  • Can long press a message to select it or multiples, then press a trash can on top, for deletion.
  • But if you do not see Main Menu / Settings at bottom, message the bot "/start", or Clear History > Delete > START. (Main Menu / Settings at bottom is associated with a "Please use menu buttons below" message in response to "/start" or START.)

The Product ID looks like an Israeli phone number:
+972 54 XXX-XXXX Partner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_Israel

LG Xpression Plus (unlocked AT&T Prepaid)

APN did not auto populate.

I noticed an app named "USIM Services" was installed/became available.
However, I am pretty sure that at first I only saw 42501 and 26006 profiles.

I could not get data service with either profile, so I moved to a Nord N200.

Nord N200 (T-Mobile unlocked)

Again I had no luck at first. But I then noticed three profiles in the USIM Services app.

Code:
USIM Services app > DMI > Settings > Profile >
 There are three profiles that start with: 0 42501, 1 26006, 2 26003
 The selected one has a *.  So after selecting 2 26003, you should see 2*26003.
 DMI > Info >
  IMSI: 26003...

With the 26003 profile, on the phone:
Code:
Settings > Mobile network > SIM >
 Data roaming -> On (forgot to test if really necessary)
 Access point names > Orange Internet ([B]APN=internetipv6[/B]) was auto populated.
 Carrier > Auto select->Off > AT&T LTE

While on Wi-Fi, in a browser I googled "myisp". Then I toggled off Wi-Fi, and tapped on one of the top search results:

My ISP is Orange Mobile.
Orange Polska Spolka Akcyjna
in Warszawa (Warsaw).

LG Xpression Plus (unlocked AT&T Prepaid)

I moved the SIM back to the LG. In the USIM Services app, the 26003 profile was still selected.

I added two APNs manually, both with Name=v.
  • With APN=internet, the same "myisp" test like above showed Orange Mobile again.
  • With APN=fastaccess, the same "myisp" test showed Roamability in Amsterdam, Nederland.
I did not enter any other field.

Endeavor mentioned different ping times:
https://www.howardforums.com/showth...need-simple-and-works?p=17262231#post17262231

On the phone:
Code:
Settings > Network & internet > Mobile networks >
 International Data Roaming can stay Off (maybe because it's "roaming" in the US?)
 Network operators > Search networks > AT&T RAT:LTE

Profiles

I selected the 42501 profile, powered the phone off and on. The 26003 profile was still there (so it did not reset/disappear). See above about needing T-mobile 2G to provision the 26003 profile.

42501 belongs to Partner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_country_code
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_network_codes_in_ITU_region_4xx_(Asia)#Israel_–_IL

26003 and 26006:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_network_codes_in_ITU_region_2xx_(Europe)#Poland_–_PL

Roamability Multi IMSI (DMI) Solution
https://roamability.com/

Summary

Again, be sure to select the 26003 profile. Supposedly the problem of needing to provision and select 26003 is only happening in the US, and profile switching should happen automatically in the rest of the world.

In Google Voice, I could dial a US phone number regularly (no need to prepend anything).

Life360 also worked no differently than usual.

Even with my contorted way to save data in running "myisp" tests, I still used more data than a typical slow month. But I would say Vegolink's accounting of data usage was fairly accurate.

Running the "myisp" tests did not feel any slower than with, say, FreedomPop.

The top left corner of the phone showed AT&T.
 
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Telegram closed my account that was registered using Google Voice. Looks like it also happened to others:
https://www.howardforums.com/showth...ules-to-prevent-SIM-Swap-Port-out-fraud/page2

I created a new Telegram account using a FreedomPop GSMT phone number, and was able to register the same Vegolink Product ID to (the bot in) the new Telegram account.


I uninstalled the Telegram app, which seemed to be running all the time, from my phone. If I need to interact with the bot, I will use the Telegram Desktop program on my PC.


I bought another Vegolink SIM from eBay. This time it arrived six days before eBay's longest estimated delivery date.

In an LG Xpression Plus (unlocked AT&T Prepaid), the third 26003 profile again never showed up after 15+ minutes.

In a Nord N200 (T-Mobile unlocked), the third 26003 profile showed up after maybe a minute or two.

On the Nord N200, Data roaming had to be On for AT&T service, maybe because it's an unlocked T-Mobile phone.


I finally noticed that the Security Code is the last six digits of the SIM card ICCID.
 
That's a bummer that your Telegram account registered with your GV # was closed! I've mentioned this before, but when my Telegram account, originally created using my GV #, was less than a year old, in late 2020 or early 2021, I got logged out and couldn't log back in. I don't remember how I did it, but I contacted support, and at least at that time, seemed surprised it wasn't letting me log in. Anyway, support fixed it, and it's worked fine ever since, including today, still registered with my GV #.
 
I opened a telegram account based on a Google voice account a few months ago. Still works. Maybe the eventual ban will come. Like others I have some accounts grandfathered in with Google Voice (Uber) that work fine. The only problem seems to be I can't call drivers as the routing through their virtual number seems to break with my virtual number but that is a rare problem with in app driver messaging.
 
I bought another Vegolink SIM from eBay. This time it arrived six days before eBay's longest estimated delivery date.

In an LG Xpression Plus (unlocked AT&T Prepaid), the third 26003 profile again never showed up after 15+ minutes.

In a Nord N200 (T-Mobile unlocked), the third 26003 profile showed up after maybe a minute or two.

On the Nord N200, Data roaming had to be On for AT&T service, maybe because it's an unlocked T-Mobile phone.


I finally noticed that the Security Code is the last six digits of the SIM card ICCID.

So buy Vegolink from ebay instead of directly from vegolink site?
 
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For a pSIM, if you spend $15 through Vegolink.com, your balance will only be $10.
(But the $30 one has free shipping/handling.)
https://vegolink.com/buy-global-data-sim-pro

Vegolink listings on eBay all seem to have free shipping/handling.
You pay through regular eBay checkout.

After you click on a listing, within about a day, eBay may offer 5% off "Because you viewed this item, here's a special offer."

There was an Amex Offers (now expired) to get $5 back by spending $15+ at eBay.


There does not appear to be an eSIM among the Vegolink listings on eBay.
However, cacophony555 seemed to be able to buy one by "Contact[ing] seller".
https://www.howardforums.com/showth...-data-roaming-service?p=17263817#post17263817

Vegolink.com was offering 10% off on eSIMs until January 1, 2024 (now expired).
https://www.howardforums.com/showth...-2-years-80-countries?p=17265867#post17265867


eBay is not adding tax for me for the Europe and Vietnam listings.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195997196054
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196055186442

I don't know how/if Vegolink.com is taxed.
 
Vegolink listings on eBay appear to each be specific only to a country right now.

For a physical SIM, it seems Vegolink is now differentiating Vegolink SIM PRO on vegolink.com that work in 160+ countries, from Vegolink SIM (not PRO) on eBay.

On https://vegolink.com/, below PRODUCTS, in OUR OFFERS, there still is a "USA - US $20" button. Right above the button is "incl. taxes". The button goes to https://usa.vegolink.com/, which still shows "Use it at your convenience in over 160 countries where Vegolink operates". $20 gives 4 GB on AT&T.

Compare to $21 for 3 GB (AT&T or T-Mobile) USA only, on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195942042562

I checked my orders last year on eBay, and those were indeed "Vegolink SIM PRO" with "Our SIM card works in 160+ countries." The new $21 listing shows "Vegolink SIM" without mentioning 160+ countries.
 
Vegolink listings on eBay appear to each be specific only to a country right now.

For a physical SIM, it seems Vegolink is now differentiating Vegolink SIM PRO on vegolink.com that work in 160+ countries, from Vegolink SIM (not PRO) on eBay.

On https://vegolink.com/, below PRODUCTS, in OUR OFFERS, there still is a "USA - US $20" button. Right above the button is "incl. taxes". The button goes to https://usa.vegolink.com/, which still shows "Use it at your convenience in over 160 countries where Vegolink operates". $20 gives 4 GB on AT&T.

Compare to $21 for 3 GB (AT&T or T-Mobile) USA only, on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195942042562

I checked my orders last year on eBay, and those were indeed "Vegolink SIM PRO" with "Our SIM card works in 160+ countries." The new $21 listing shows "Vegolink SIM" without mentioning 160+ countries.

Andyk88 (and others), this is my understanding about the current Vegolink offers.

1. Much of the confusion regarding physical SIMs on eBay arises from old eBay pages which have not been updated to reflect current tariffs (data rates). With respect to physical SIMs SOLD ON THE VEGOLINK WEB SITE there is no longer a difference between SIM and SIM PRO. Everything is now SIM PRO AND MAY BE USED IN ANY COUNTRY.

2. The offerings on eBay which appear to be country specific appear that way for marketing purposes only. If you purchase a Vegolink physical SIM on eBay, you are purchasing $20 or $21 (or whatever is the stated dollar amount) of Vegolink credit which may be used in any Vegolink country. You will use up that credit at the current data rate for the carrier you select. If you use $20 exclusively on AT&T in the United States, at $.005 per mb, you will have 4 gb of data. If you use $20 exclusively on T-Mobile in the United States, at $.009 per mb, you will have approximately 2.33 gb of data. If you use $20 exclusively in Spain on one of their partners, at the new data rate of $.002 per mb, you will have 10 gb of data. You can mix and match carriers as you choose, recognizing that your balance will decrease based on the data cost for the carrier you have selected.

3. New tariffs (data rates) have been posted, effective May 12, 2024. The data rates for the United States, Canada and Mexico remain unchanged except for the fact that (the very expensive) Rogers is no longer listed as a Vegolink partner in Canada. Data rates throughout most of Europe have decreased to $.002 per mb.


EDITED MESSAGE: Andyk88 contacted me offline and informed me that Vegolink products currently being sold on eBay are country specific and may carry different data rates than those sim cards currently offered on the Vegolink web site. Vegolink is promising to provide more specific information by the end of May.

Based on Andy's correspondence with Vegolink I am deleting paragraph two of my earlier message and I am revising paragraph one. I thank Andyk88 for his courteously updated information.
 
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Thanks stususs for the good news on new tariffs. Data rates in Europe have decreased a lot.

https://vegolink.com/tariffs-and-coverage
Code:
Italy    WINDTRE    0.002
Italy    Vodafone    0.002
Italy    ILIAD    0.002
Italy    TIM    0.01
Switzerland    Sunrise    0.002
Switzerland    Salt    0.005
Netherlands    Vodafone    0.002
Netherlands    T-Mobile    0.002
Netherlands    KPN/Telfort    0.005
Iceland    Nova    0.002
Iceland    Siminn    0.01

https://web.archive.org/web/20231113083349/https://vegolink.com/tariffs-and-coverage
Code:
Italy    WINDTRE    0.005
Italy    Vodafone    0.005
Italy    ILIAD    0.005
Italy    TIM    0.009
Switzerland    Sunrise    0.005
Switzerland    Salt    0.005
Netherlands    T-Mobile    0.005
Netherlands    KPN/Telfort    0.006
Netherlands    Vodafone    0.007
Iceland    Nova    0.005
Iceland    Siminn    0.01


Last year, I was merely testing Vegolink SIMs (posts #145 #146 above). But I just used Vegolink "for real" as a replacement for FreedomPop.

Besides selecting the 26003 profile in the United States, I think you also want to:

USIM Services app > DMI > Settings > Status > toggle OFF

If it's ON, the profile may not stay at 26003 after a restart or power off. In the United States, you want it to stay at 26003 and not switch automatically/dynamically.

These apps all worked:
  • Drive Safe & Save (State Farm - Preferences > Always use WiFi is broken)
  • Exxon Mobile Rewards+ (PAY AT PUMP)
  • Life360
  • Voice (no need to prepend +1 to a phone number)
  • Walmart (I used Walmart Pay)


Another way to contact Vegolink is simply clicking on "Contact seller" on a eBay listing (e.g., https://www.ebay.com/itm/195942042562).
 
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I just realized that https://vegolink.com/ added Check Balance:

https://vegolink.com/verify-balance

at the bottom of the webpage (or top menu).

https://web.archive.org/web/20240322230830/https://vegolink.com/ (no mention in the FAQ)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240417083244/https://vegolink.com/ (not at the bottom of the webpage)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240423165145/https://vegolink.com/

So if you do not need to transfer balance, you do not need to use Telegram.


I am still puzzled why Vegolink is not more popular.

Perhaps it's the uncertainty of profile switching? paperwastage wrote that Yesim used to be multi-IMSI but no longer:
https://www.howardforums.com/thread...rd-and-how-does-it-work.1929753/post-17273021
Perhaps, if keeping multi-IMSI, Vegolink could publish the profile for each country, so we can just select manually (and disable dynamic switching).
 
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If you do need att that's a good price for lifetime data but having to buy $15 or $20 up front is a barrier to entry and reports of difficulty of getting it running (the most I have to do with other carriers is sometimes set an APN).

I use BNESim which has 5gb lifetime T-Mobile data in USA for $12 with coupons often. I agree that keepgo (which I use also) is relatively expensive without the referral bonuses etc. Airalo apparently just works in a lot of places and is one of the larger providers so I think that's why they are popular (I use Eskimo, Redbull Mobile due to free data promotions that got me into their ecosystem)

Still good to hear about another option.
 
Which of these are good for Thailand ?

Prefer a Thai number but Data-Only is OK

Maybe a 2-month trip

Ideally can get a pSIM but can live with eSIM if saves a lot
 
Good point pitflyer on needing to download the 26003 profile last year.
I wonder if anything has changed (and now that T-Mobile 2G shutdown is postponed). Vegolink could have pre-downloaded the 26003 profile before sending out physical SIMs.

Thanks for the reminder about BNESIM. Unfortunately I looked into BNESIM last year, and decided against it.
https://www.howardforums.com/thread...plans-that-never-expire.1928129/post-17250829

If one buys the Vegolink USA offer on the website (https://usa.vegolink.com/), the entire $20 balance can be used for data, so the SIM card is essentially free. By contrast, last year I found two physical BNESIM cards on Amazon but couldn't get a straight answer on data rates / had bad experience with their app. The bnesim.com website (after selecting ONE TIME instead of MONTHLY PLAN) wants 9.00 € for a physical SIM card, plus Express delivery 9.90 €.

I still have practically never used Nord N200 phones (T-Mobile unlocked), so cannot think of buying a new phone just for eSIM. eSIM.me is a little pricey and seems to add complication.



I have no experience with Thailand. Perhaps there will be more visibility if Paul starts a new thread, or just add to the more general eSIM thread that Paul started:
https://www.howardforums.com/threads/international-roaming-esims.1929413/

However, I remember coming across someone mentioning Thailand:
https://old.red dit.com/r/eSIMs/comments/zls4ig/longvalidity_prepaid_esim/
(I added a space between red and dit to prevent media embedding mess.)

3HK was discussed here:
https://www.howardforums.com/threads/us-mobile-global.1928188/

Keepgo has a new Tucana product that seems interesting (supports all three carriers in the US):
https://www.keepgo.com/collections/prepaid-mobile-data-bundle-thailand

A quick Google search seems to show that AIS is the one to look into:
https://www.google.com/search?q=thailand+esim
https://www.ais-amazingthailandsim.com/ (expand Terms & Conditions, but only 1 Day)
 
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I was definitely not comparing the physical option (didn't even know BNE offered one) so your math is probably correct when you consider the physical sim. My most recent phone is actually a dual physical sim phone of which one can be converted to esim on demand. So best of all worlds.
 
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