Sprint LTE Sunset

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Isn't the Sprint LTE Sunset on 6/30? Curious because there are Sprint sites in my area that aren't upgraded yet and there's no tmobile fallback for coverage or very low TMobile signal :( hoping these get upgraded soon.
 
Yup. I've seen local sites go from 2CA 20MHz b41 to 20MHz b41, now 10MHz b41. I suspect that 'some' will be just a change from 310-120 to 310-260 and b41/b25, until they physically replace/upgrade.

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Very few Delaware sites converted either (maybe a few in Wilmington. No rural sites, not a one). A few sprint people got switched over to T-Mobile…then switched to AT&T or Verizon

@buckspaul I think they forgot about PA and DE on conversions lol
 
Very few Delaware sites converted either (maybe a few in Wilmington. No rural sites, not a one). A few sprint people got switched over to T-Mobile…then switched to AT&T or Verizon

@buckspaul I think they forgot about PA and DE on conversions lol

Probably didn't "forget", but have neglected it. They'll either 'switch' the existing sites to "T-Mobile" or decomm. This is T-Mobile's migration, and they may end up losing a lot of customers in some areas. DE is a rather small state, and like many other areas, T-Mobile will cover it on their map... and then have customers leave when service doesn't exist.
Tmobile and "cover", even where I am has various meaning.
 
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Personally, I'm curious to see how many will be immediately flipped to 310-260 vs 310-120 and decommissioned. Today, I was in Granada Hills, roaming on Sprint b25/41. TMobile has a tower about a mile up the road. Will TMobile keep Sprints colocated tower? Similarly for many other locations. While I wouldn't expect an immediate rebuild, I'm curious as to home many will be kept.

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Very few Delaware sites converted either (maybe a few in Wilmington. No rural sites, not a one). A few sprint people got switched over to T-Mobile…then switched to AT&T or Verizon

@buckspaul I think they forgot about PA and DE on conversions lol
Lol, They did do one upgrade so far. It's so interesting they put n41 in this very rural valley and speeds are incredible since there's probably not more than 200 people within n41 coverage and probably it has no traffic. But just the fact they did a full upgrade on it is amazing given the rural location.

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Its possible that this just happened to be a fiber fed site that T-Mobile wants to keep.
Ironically, the one local site that was upgraded in my area is a Crown Castle site with fiber, and speeds peak ~1500Mbps., while many of T-Mobile's native sites peak around 800Mbps. I wonder in many cases if its quicker/easier/cheaper to retrofit/keep a Sprint site with fiber than it is to bring in backhaul to T-Mobile sites (microwave currently?). The closest site to me is a colo with Sprint AND T-Mobile. T-Mobile appears to have a microwave backhaul, while Sprint does not. Will T-Mobile use Sprint's fiber or keep their microwave ?
 
Looks like the "Sprint keep" site in the north end is down, and I don't see any maintenance trucks or cherry pickers around.

Less than 2 weeks

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Just as a note, TMobile service in the area is poor to none. Sprint, Verizon and AT&T all have sites within 1/2 mile. Screenshot_20220616-193609_SignalCheck%20Pro.jpgScreenshot_20220616-193312_SignalCheck%20Pro.jpg

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That's ridiculous. Hopefully it's up and running again or it's not been decommissioned

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I wouldn't hold my breath. While it 'may' be on the upgrade path, T-Mobile's coverage map doesn't support it.
i.e. That area is showing as 5G UC , yet the area where the Sprint tower is... is right in the middle of 4G LTE only.
When I check the PCC map, it shows outdoor coverage and 'in car' on LTE 600/700
It is possible that they have shutdown the site, and it'll take a few weeks to rebuild... but I'm not overly optimistic, given T-Mobile's response.
 
I see the cherry picker boom truck up at the site today, and 1 level of panels 'removed'.
I suspect that they may actually be rebuilding the site, and as typical... T-Mobile's left hand doesn't know about the right hand.
Either way, it'll be another week or 2 before they have panels up, wired and the backend connected with fiber if they are rebuilding.
 
I see the cherry picker boom truck up at the site today, and 1 level of panels 'removed'.
I suspect that they may actually be rebuilding the site, and as typical... T-Mobile's left hand doesn't know about the right hand.
Either way, it'll be another week or 2 before they have panels up, wired and the backend connected with fiber if they are rebuilding.

When I did my trip back to Ohio last week I drove since I needed the car for some projects I was helping the parents with - and the drive down 65 to 70, the LTE/VoLTE was just terrible and breaking up like mad on Thursday.

Driving back Monday, I had UC most of the drive (just a patch between Dayton and Indy of n71 only - still worked well streaming lossless audio in Apple Music in the car), and a few patches of n71 only up 65, but I got UC anywhere there was any sort of population density.. it was a complete 180 from Thursday, so it seems *those* upgrades did not take too long.

Also, when hiking with a friend around hocking hills, I was amazed to see T-Mobile and AT&T the only ones with actually usable service - the two that had Verizon had nearly zero service until we got a few miles away from the hiking spot - I was not there to use data, but it was nice being able to stream music to a BT speaker that wasnt downloaded, and grabbing a few maps when necessary.
 
Also, when hiking with a friend around hocking hills, I was amazed to see T-Mobile and AT&T the only ones with actually usable service - the two that had Verizon had nearly zero service until we got a few miles away from the hiking spot - I was not there to use data, but it was nice being able to stream music to a BT speaker that wasnt downloaded, and grabbing a few maps when necessary.

I know AT&T colocated on a site in South Bloomingville last year so that definitely helps the area. I was down there the year before that and AT&T lost signal a few miles from the state park. Tmo has lots of B2 sites in the area so hopefully they upgrade those in a timely fashion.
 
Supposedly my ticket has an ETR response (probably thanks to BBB).
I doubt that the Left hand still knows about the Right hand at T-Mobile. It appears that they replaced the upper rack on the Sprint 'tree'.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.464...4!1sYtYu5fsg1S6mZKN0iayuOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

T-Mobile response is: Service will be fixed within the next 6 months.
From typical rebuild in my area: T-Mobile site rebuild ~= 2-3 weeks, minimal outage. Sprint rebuild site ~3 weeks, 2-3 week outage.
 
T-Mobile response is: Service will be fixed within the next 6 months.
From typical rebuild in my area: T-Mobile site rebuild ~= 2-3 weeks, minimal outage. Sprint rebuild site ~3 weeks, 2-3 week outage.

Here a typical Sprint conversion takes about a month to do before it sits broadcasting B25 only for 1-2 months. This depends a ton on available backhaul though. AT&T upgrading a site with new equipment took 6 weeks (old equipment continued broadcasting during the upgrade).
 
When T-Mobile rebuilt an older LTE site on SoCal Edison transmission tower , they literally put up a new rack above the existing, and had service running pretty much the entire time. I suspect they had room to add while leaving B4 panels up (taking down B2 + B12). Cleanup + adjustment took a bit afterwards.
Sprint site (local) however was pretty much a complete teardown, leaving only the monopole itself. Ericsson crew was there, and it was a Sprint only Crown Castle site, and only ~30' high. It was fairly quick to tear down.
 
I know AT&T colocated on a site in South Bloomingville last year so that definitely helps the area. I was down there the year before that and AT&T lost signal a few miles from the state park. Tmo has lots of B2 sites in the area so hopefully they upgrade those in a timely fashion.

Yeah, I was getting B2 pretty much anywhere I got it.. n71/b71 should make it solid throughout the entire place, although I was allowed to roam on AT&T as well.
 
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